The other day, I posted picks of the movement tray I am creating for my units of Long Gunners. Von, from Game Over and A Year of Frugal Gaming left a great comment I wanted to share (Von, I hope you don't mind me quoting you here):
Von said... Cool tray, no doubt about that, but I think there's a reason Warmachine players don't use them, and a consequence for you that you might not have thought about.
The sheer openness of Warmachine Mark II's formation rules open up a lot of tactical options (with lines of sight/fire, casualty removal, counter-attacks and so on), especially for high priority units with different actions and attacks available to them (like Trenchers and Long Gunners).
I worry that you're locking yourself into one rather limited formation, and thus locking yourself out of those options. I also worry about terrain, particularly buildings, although I assume you'll just abandon the tray there.
Of course, strength of play may not be as big a priority for you. This'll certainly speed up your play, and if you did a battlegroup and solos one as well, they'd be nice display/transport utilities.
I hadn't really thought about how the tray would lock me in. Recently, I have played several games with pHaley where I line up two full units of Long Gunners, 24 mini's, and shoot holes in the oncoming hordes. I thought it was a pain in the butt when I had to move them all up the first turn, thus the idea a tray was formed. I think I also just wanted to play with power tools =)
I like the imposed spacing so I don't get all my guys killed in one round of Khador AOE's. I also think I can leave the tray when needs be. I knew going into it that it would probably only help for turns 1 & 2. However, once they are in the tray, my tendency will be to leave them in that formation simply because I am too lazy to want to move them all. I pretty sure I would pull them off it when I needed to but it would have to be a conscious decision.
Another thing for me to consider is that the Long Gunners are at their best when they don't move. If they stand still, they get a +2 aiming bonus on either 1)their first of two shots at 12" each or 2) on a 24" shot. They also have the combined range attack ability. I might just start leaving them in their deployment zone starting positions. They won't get a shot the first turn but they have longer to shoot at the enemy. I guess it still depends on the scenario.
Anyway, Von, thank you for the comment. It has really given me a lot to think about. I still plan on finishing the tray and trying it out a couple of times. There is nothing like experience to show me if I made a movement tray or an interesting display board!
Thanks for reading!
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Thursday, August 19, 2010
Sunday, August 15, 2010
Long Gunners and a Movement Tray
I have been working on my Long Gunners again. I last posted pics of them here. They now have most of their highlights done and I am trying to get the cloth to come out. The banner is the last thing to do. It has intimidated me for a while but I am almost ready to give it a go. Here are some recent pics of the progress.
On a different note, I have been playing around with the idea of creating a movement tray for them. Warmachine does not typically have movement trays but I am getting used to fielding two full units at 10+2 officers. With 24 mini's, I decided to take the plunge.
I went to my local craft store and purchased 1/8 x 4 x 24 piece of Basswood. It was $2.99, not bad for a movement tray. After WAY too long trying to figure out the best arrangement and the spacing to put in between the little guys, I drew out my circles on the board and started cutting.
I had purchased a Dremel Multipurpose Cutting Kit #565 but I had never used it before.

Turns out, it works great but it is very loud! I was afraid my apartment neighbors would call the office on me! I was out on the patio, which was good because of all the sawdust, but it was very loud. I used the kit to create the holes in the middle, then I finished them out with a sanding band. The sanding band was much quieter and was easier to control when I got next to my pencil lines.
I know it is hard to tell from this picture but the 3" blast template can only hit one mini when it is centered on a guy. I lose about 2" on my back rank's range but I don't get killed with bombards either. I also hope this will keep some of them out of charge range when it comes to that.
I considered making the tray magnetic but I already have the washers on the bases of the Long Gunners and I decided not to mess with it. Maybe next time.
The smartest thing I did was use the board as a template for my next movement tray. I certainly don't want to try all the crazy math and measurements I did on this one.
The dumbest thing I did? Well, I started putting a unit in the tray to take a picture for the blog and realized I only cut 10 holes. With the Officer Attachment, I am 2 short! Dang it! I will still use it, as I can always put two of the guys to the side or in a back rank. Still, I am happy with my first attempt.
Thanks for reading!
| I blocked in the major colors and the first hint of highlight. There are actually two different units here, distinguished by the color of their skirt. |
| Here is a close up of two of them, pretty close to done. |
I went to my local craft store and purchased 1/8 x 4 x 24 piece of Basswood. It was $2.99, not bad for a movement tray. After WAY too long trying to figure out the best arrangement and the spacing to put in between the little guys, I drew out my circles on the board and started cutting.
I had purchased a Dremel Multipurpose Cutting Kit #565 but I had never used it before.
| You might notice all the pencil lines where I thought the holes would go. Like I said, it took me a while. |
| This is what they look like in their new movement tray. Notice the second board underneath. |
I know it is hard to tell from this picture but the 3" blast template can only hit one mini when it is centered on a guy. I lose about 2" on my back rank's range but I don't get killed with bombards either. I also hope this will keep some of them out of charge range when it comes to that.
I considered making the tray magnetic but I already have the washers on the bases of the Long Gunners and I decided not to mess with it. Maybe next time.
The smartest thing I did was use the board as a template for my next movement tray. I certainly don't want to try all the crazy math and measurements I did on this one.
The dumbest thing I did? Well, I started putting a unit in the tray to take a picture for the blog and realized I only cut 10 holes. With the Officer Attachment, I am 2 short! Dang it! I will still use it, as I can always put two of the guys to the side or in a back rank. Still, I am happy with my first attempt.
Thanks for reading!
Labels:
Cygnar,
Long Gunners,
Movement Trays,
Warmachine
Saturday, May 15, 2010
Front Arcs
I am also slightly OCD, so I drew a template to help place them. It worked well enough but there was still a little play in where the line ended up.
I think next time, I will find box with a good right angle. I will slide them back against the corner, then mark the line, again using something like the template. Has anyone else found a better (simpler/faster) way? Or do you eyeball and freehand them?
Labels:
Cygnar,
Long Gunners,
Warmachine
Thursday, May 13, 2010
First Layer
I am a little intimidated by the large batch but I think it will help me paint the characters. Characters scare me a little, so hopefully with them lumped in with the regulars, they will get the same treatment. Otherwise, there is a strong chance they will sit on the shelf until I feel up to them. More to come...
Labels:
Bodgers,
Cygnar,
Long Gunners,
Sloan1,
Squire,
Warmachine
Friday, April 30, 2010
Assembling Cygnar
I picked up some Simple Green the other day and dropped 6 trenchers into a chipped coffee mug. They have been here for 48 hours and layers of paint are peeling off. It is my first time working with Simple Green but I have had these trenchers for 4+ years and they have never been fielded. I bought them already painted (and cheap) along with 4 primed black. I hope to get them cleaned up, buy a box of the new Trencher Commandos, and paint them all together.
Here are my recent purchases. I have the 6 Long Gunners, 2 Officers, and 2 Standard Bearers to fill out my Long Gunner Units. The new Warcaster Kara Sloan is also a new purchase. I already had eHaley, who finally got assembled, and the Squire, who was based along with the rest of them.
The next step will be to attach the washers and a coat of black spray primer to lock down the sand.
Labels:
Cygnar,
Haley2,
Long Gunners,
Sloan1,
Squire,
Stryker2,
Trenchers,
Warmachine
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