Thursday, August 19, 2010

A Reasoned Response to my Movement Tray

The other day, I posted picks of the movement tray I am creating for my units of Long Gunners.  Von, from Game Over and A Year of Frugal Gaming left a great comment I wanted to share (Von, I hope you don't mind me quoting you here):

Von said... Cool tray, no doubt about that, but I think there's a reason Warmachine players don't use them, and a consequence for you that you might not have thought about.

The sheer openness of Warmachine Mark II's formation rules open up a lot of tactical options (with lines of sight/fire, casualty removal, counter-attacks and so on), especially for high priority units with different actions and attacks available to them (like Trenchers and Long Gunners).

I worry that you're locking yourself into one rather limited formation, and thus locking yourself out of those options. I also worry about terrain, particularly buildings, although I assume you'll just abandon the tray there.

Of course, strength of play may not be as big a priority for you. This'll certainly speed up your play, and if you did a battlegroup and solos one as well, they'd be nice display/transport utilities. 


I hadn't really thought about how the tray would lock me in.  Recently, I have played several games with pHaley where I line up two full units of Long Gunners, 24 mini's, and shoot holes in the oncoming hordes.  I thought it was a pain in the butt when I had to move them all up the first turn, thus the idea a tray was formed.  I think I also just wanted to play with power tools =)

I like the imposed spacing so I don't get all my guys killed in one round of Khador AOE's.  I also think I can leave the tray when needs be.  I knew going into it that it would probably only help for turns 1 & 2.  However, once they are in the tray, my tendency will be to leave them in that formation simply because I am too lazy to want to move them all.  I pretty sure I would pull them off it when I needed to but it would have to be a conscious decision.

Another thing for me to consider is that the Long Gunners are at their best when they don't move.  If they stand still, they get a +2 aiming bonus on either 1)their first of two shots at 12" each or 2) on a 24" shot.  They also have the combined range attack ability.  I might just start leaving them in their deployment zone starting positions.  They won't get a shot the first turn but they have longer to shoot at the enemy.  I guess it still depends on the scenario.

Anyway, Von, thank you for the comment.  It has really given me a lot to think about.  I still plan on finishing the tray and trying it out a couple of times.  There is nothing like experience to show me if I made a movement tray or an interesting display board!

Thanks for reading!

3 comments:

jmezz382 said...

Blogging at its best .... sharing thoughts and strategy ....

Von said...

Umm... that 12"/24" thing is the 40K Rapid Fire rule. Think you crossed your wires there.

Long Gunners get two shots at 14" or one at an effective 20" (RNG 14 + SPD 6). I suppose you can get to 24" if you put Snipe on them, move and fire a single shot, though...


Anyway, I've been thinking and I reckon you're probably all right as far as the Long Gunners go, actually, provided you're good at spotting lines of sight and knowing when to give the tray up as a bad lot so you can fit more CRA contributors into a lane of fire.

I do advise against building one for Trenchers, though. There's a sort of triangular formation for Trenchers that can work extremely well... maybe I'll do a post on my own blog about it, since it'll mean more mucking about with maps.

Good luck with the tray. Prove me wrong! ;)

Shelexie said...

Thanks again for the comments. I am definitely still figuring this out. You were right about the Long Gunners shooting range. I would like to see the triangle formation for the trenchers. I have only used them a couple of times and would love to see some of their possibilities.

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